yup, this website proves your point! And your totally right, the site I saw earlier had the league goals and the champions goals... He scored 2 goals for Spain too that's why i said that you we're counting the national team goalsArdi41 wrote:there you go :HappinessMachine41 wrote:I can't believe in you, I believe in facts! show me something that proves your point about his goals please. It's not easy for him? Have you seen his salary? He has the obligation to do a lot better! And it's like you said, Lampard scored 16 (AND HE IS A MIDFIELDER!! xD). It is true that he played better when di matteo took over the team!Ardi41 wrote:he did score 11 goals for chelsea this season , believe me ;) and yes everyone is expecting a lot more from torres , but it is not that easy for him. This Season was a really tough one for chelsea,the player with the most goals was lampard and he only scored 16...the expectations were huge and torres just couldn't handle it ... it always takes a lot of time for a striker to adapt to the team , and like i said he had so much bad luck . everytime when it looked like he's getting the back to his old performance again something bad happend ,wich destroyed his confidence again (for example the goal against manU and the bad miss afterwards , or the goal against swansea and the red card afterwards). And when di matteo took over the team he really got better with each match.And yes he made a lot of important assists wich were important for the final results,wich shows how good he is..(second most assists in the team ,after mata).And the reason why drogba played so often , was because of drogbas ability to score very important goals in finals.. (9 finals 9 goals)HappinessMachine41 wrote:Do you remember the first seasons of Torres in Liverpool? or in Atletico? He was a wonder kid, he had so much potencial, he could be the best striker in the world! And he was for less time than we expected. AVB always trust in him that's why he played much more when AVB was there than now because Di Matteo puts Drogba instead, right? (correct me if i'm wrong please). And in that 11 goals, any of those were important the final result? I remember when he scored 3 goals against i don't rembember who xD he scored against barça, i think it was the only goal decisive... This season wasn't lost but look: Abramovich paid 56M€ for him and what return did he get? Real Madrid paid 96M€ for Ronaldo and what return did he get? In one year, the millions they paid for ronaldo was sold in shirts! But I don't really think that this as a lot to do with what I was saying. We all expect a lot more from Torres, even you, i guess.Ardi41 wrote:that, my friend ... is so wrong. Saying torres is bad is just not right . Everybody knows how good of a player he is.The one thing that AVB did wrong, was that he didn't trust in him .Just look at torres' performance under di matteo ... he gave him confidence and trust so he felt more comfortable on the field ... and btw torres had 16 assists and 11 goals this season ... how come he was bad ? he just had a lot of bad luck once he came to chelsea , but now he slowly got his power back. Believe me , next season will be torres' season !HappinessMachine41 wrote:I think AVB did one thing wrong: Put torres on. He is soooo bad! And where the hell is Lukaku?
I went to a site and it says that Torres scored 9 goals, and not 11 like you've said. We are talking about his performance in Chelsea and not in his national team
And btw Torres scored 23 goals in his first premier league season , wich is still a record ^^
And btw I said Torres promised a lot when he was younger (Atletico and Liverpool):
"Do you remember the first seasons of Torres in Liverpool? or in Atletico? He was a wonder kid, he had so much potencial, he could be the best striker in the world!
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6 premier league goals
3 champions league goals
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Worst CL final i have ever seen, thank you.
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then you haven't seen a lot of them , you're welcome.Madjid wrote:Worst CL final i have ever seen, thank you.
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Maybe, but to see a team defend for 300 minutes ( Against both Barcelona and Munchen ) and end up winning the whole thing is plain disgusting.Ardi41 wrote:then you haven't seen a lot of them , you're welcome.Madjid wrote:Worst CL final i have ever seen, thank you.
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No one said there was anything wrong with playing defense, but the way Chelsea played, it was a fuckin disgrace to football.
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if there is nothing wrong with playing defense , how was it disgrace to footbal ;) ? what do you expect them to do ... playing offensive footbal against barcelona (wich would be clearly suicide) ? or being as stupid as bayern and playing so offensive in a champions league final ?Madjid wrote:Maybe, but to see a team defend for 300 minutes ( Against both Barcelona and Munchen ) and end up winning the whole thing is plain disgusting.Ardi41 wrote:then you haven't seen a lot of them , you're welcome.Madjid wrote:Worst CL final i have ever seen, thank you.
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No one said there was anything wrong with playing defense, but the way Chelsea played, it was a fuckin disgrace to football.
just look at inter milan's champions league win in 2010 ... those guys never even left their own side of the pitch ... in any game ^^
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Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
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This guy can haz my virgin butthole any time he wishes.Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
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why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
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relax mate, it's bobby he's just taking the piss, you'll learn to love him if he decides to stay, we all doArdi41 wrote:why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
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i know him cause i'm a creeper ;PDruska wrote:relax mate, it's bobby he's just taking the piss, you'll learn to love him if he decides to stay, we all doArdi41 wrote:why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
well, it was nothing personal , i was talking generally about people that just have to make everything down ...
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This is the internet man, you sure can't just change someone's opinion, and no one can change yours.Ardi41 wrote:i know him cause i'm a creeper ;PDruska wrote:relax mate, it's bobby he's just taking the piss, you'll learn to love him if he decides to stay, we all doArdi41 wrote:why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
well, it was nothing personal , i was talking generally about people that just have to make everything down ...
If you're lurk around this site, you know by now that most of the members that are into football, hate Chelsea.
I actually love hating them haha.
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see , this is one thing i will never understand . why do people who do not like certain things , go around and talk about them , or put people down who like those things ? Actually i hate a lot of things too , but i don't bash people cause they have a different point of view.Madjid wrote:This is the internet man, you sure can't just change someone's opinion, and no one can change yours.Ardi41 wrote:i know him cause i'm a creeper ;PDruska wrote:relax mate, it's bobby he's just taking the piss, you'll learn to love him if he decides to stay, we all doArdi41 wrote:why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
well, it was nothing personal , i was talking generally about people that just have to make everything down ...
If you're lurk around this site, you know by now that most of the members that are into football, hate Chelsea.
I actually love hating them haha.
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^ It's just footy dude, it happens in most leagues. People hate on teams with pure passion, a lot of the time because that team is better than theirs, or just for no apparent reason. Sporting rivalry. People are totally over the top about it.
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dude, I think your tampon fell out.Ardi41 wrote:see , this is one thing i will never understand . why do people who do not like certain things , go around and talk about them , or put people down who like those things ? Actually i hate a lot of things too , but i don't bash people cause they have a different point of view.Madjid wrote:This is the internet man, you sure can't just change someone's opinion, and no one can change yours.Ardi41 wrote:i know him cause i'm a creeper ;PDruska wrote:relax mate, it's bobby he's just taking the piss, you'll learn to love him if he decides to stay, we all doArdi41 wrote:why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
well, it was nothing personal , i was talking generally about people that just have to make everything down ...
If you're lurk around this site, you know by now that most of the members that are into football, hate Chelsea.
I actually love hating them haha.
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I lol'd.Bobbyjames wrote:dude, I think your tampon fell out.Ardi41 wrote:see , this is one thing i will never understand . why do people who do not like certain things , go around and talk about them , or put people down who like those things ? Actually i hate a lot of things too , but i don't bash people cause they have a different point of view.Madjid wrote:This is the internet man, you sure can't just change someone's opinion, and no one can change yours.Ardi41 wrote:i know him cause i'm a creeper ;PDruska wrote:relax mate, it's bobby he's just taking the piss, you'll learn to love him if he decides to stay, we all doArdi41 wrote:why all the hate ? why can't you just let people enjoy their favourite team winning the champions league ?Bobbyjames wrote:Congratluations on equalling Aston Villa's number of European Cups. You're half way to catching Nottingham Forest now too!
well, it was nothing personal , i was talking generally about people that just have to make everything down ...
If you're lurk around this site, you know by now that most of the members that are into football, hate Chelsea.
I actually love hating them haha.
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